I've been watching the show since episode one, and I know that ever since Game of thrones the subject of incest isn't so taboo on tv anymore and many writers now use it to increase the Drama of a movie or tv show. Zilpha did that of her own volition, which ironically makes her seem insane as he rejected her, in a passionate way. also what the fuck - james showed no indication that he was ever gonna let zilpha come on that ship with him? There are echoes of The King in Yellow's unreliable narrator schtick in James' madness. i'm not saying it's right to manipulate james, but it was definitely a little different to the trash we see done to chick on tv on the daily - and just, with how toxic and complex this relationship felt? it just felt like an injustice to her and to oona - because the way their relationship was initially presented it felt like zilpha had the ability to be conniving and probably had been cruel to james in how she managed that relationship as much as she loved him, it would have been so interesting watching them call each other out and exploring how problematic they could have been towards each other and built on that NOT JUST? if you know any of the fic writers for this pair it seems that we all had the same idea on how they developed. They knew each other's madness and … their relationship had so much potential, zilpha could have been so much more than a chick robbed again and again of her agency. It appears she did. i just - you know sometimes it's hard to forget that cognitive dissonance and hating characters isn't the characters fault - it's the creator's. Also the cannibal thing was completely dropped after episode 3. Despite my complaints, Taboo‘s first season was good. Friday, 25 December 2020, 07:54 EST. Concluding Thoughts on Taboo Season 1. It could have been the wadding, which is pressed down in the barrel to compact the gunpowder, to not only stop it falling out, but necessary to make it explode. she shoots herself) or show her body? James Delaney has seemingly lost everything but, when he suffers a devastating betrayal, he realises even his freedom is in jeopardy. and every flaw with that relationship is the creators of this series fault. What appears to be a re-run of last week's outing takes a diverting turn in the final act. Zilpha killing herself seems perfectly in line with what we have learned of her mental state. In the last, and very much least, of the available roles was Zilpha Geary, estranged half-sister to the brooding James Delaney. I say Zilpha probably heard of him saw him and fantasized snuck into his part of the grounds made separate due to his crazy Nat.Am. Which leaves us with the question of Lorna. She had submitted herself to a respectable life that he had compromised. James Delaney character is the most intriguing in a long time, Taboo story is so addictive that it is unthinkable that they only give us one season. OFF HER AND GO NOWHERE WITH THAT SHIT? We close the episode at Zilpha’s house. (I'm hoping for something along these lines). But this was too far-fetched, full of holes, silly dialogue, terrible acting and for the most part laughable. 3 Min Read. Lorna had a few cheeky digs at James. In FX’s new show, Taboo, produced and co-written by star Tom Hardy, the Noble Savage is James Delaney (Hardy), a British citizen returned from a long absence in Africa, to claim his inheritance after his father’s death. Zilphas character was very underwritten.I hated James complete 180 turn towards her.She was written for the shock value and then dropped.I think your right with Step mummy lol,she instantly cares for James for reasons??? We see wind when James uses the dust. He saw her as just like him, someone who was free from societal trappings, in control and self-possessed, maybe she was like him when they were younger. Press J to jump to the feed. (2)He gets the flashbacks/images of his witch-mother while they're having sex. Now I don't agree with incest, but I'm so tired of everyone putting this all on James and saying Zilpha is a victim. And Zilpha makes it clear that James’ strangling of her the episode prior was ok. That they just have to take it slower… and that they have all the time in the world. If you pay attention these flashbacks happen as some kind of 'spider sense' as a warning of danger in other scenes. Taboo was okay, but it was slow, I didn't care about any of the characters and so it was a bit of a disapointment. They couldn't vote, or inherit property. When Zilpha tries to push James away he basically tells her that is impossible because of the “great big river that connects them” and says “I will always be this close to you, won’t I?”. Her being pushed to the point that she murdered her husband was the result of his meddling. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. if you're gonna give us an incestuous relationship, don't tease us - do it and do it properly. Sometimes I feel like they had other plans for the show but decided to drop the most controversial aspect of it because they were too afraid of turning some of the audience way. (I would be a little disappointed at this, to be honest.) I wanted them to show me some connection between the two outside of the dramatic stares and deep breathing. So I thought Id start a board for people to talk about the incestuous relationship that James and Zilpha have. The "Taboo" finale was mostly well received by the twitter audience, however, it also triggered strong feelings from citizens of Shat Nation: anger over Zilpha's death, frustration over plot holes, curiosity about James Delaney's mental state, and hope for a "Taboo" season 2 and beyond. J ames had fled to Africa after having stolen fourteen diamonds in England, after the death of his father. Zilpha's husband's pistol was loaded with gunpowder, but no ball. He also says they used to speak to each other without talking in dark corners and they are the same person. I think he sees the light after that.". I too felt that this particular turn of events was...inadequate. James rejected ZILPHA EXACTLY AS YOU STATE, wtf? Both of which destroyed her from the inside out. But it was confirmed minutes after Thorne died. Chaplin’s latest role—as Tom Hardy’s character’s married half-sister, Zilpha, in FX’s new series Taboo—is literally more buttoned-up than the free-wheeling Lady Stark. But they certainly left the door open for her surviving. James talks to the dead. Is she really dead? I mean if they want to kill a main character, why not show her death, pick a less ambiguous death (e.g. also zilpha's entire storyline could have been edited out and not even affected james' grand scheme - she was kept intentionally seperate from his schemes (by the writers) which feels so lazy? This show will not go on without the great acting of Oona Chaplin. I'd rather a better delving into their issue and continued the love but they are obviously going to have James date and fuck his stepmother actress. The chemistry between Hardy as James and Chaplin as Zilpha oozes between the two of them every time they are near each other. FX/BBC miniseries Taboo. Permalink: They're my rocks now. We didn't see her die. Something I thought odd was before rejecting her and giving the pity diamond he specifically mentions that she should blame her God for the removal of the bond. No, James had a … James: They're my rocks now. Her demise was ridiculous and James suddenly getting over her came of nowhere. When she showed up all frenzied and beaten saying she had killed her husband he realized that she wasn't playing a game. If the writers just LET THEM. because in those days it wasn't uncommon for men of 30 to marry girls as young as 14; from a young age Girls were raised to be subservient to men, and treated like property or second class citizens. He didn’t have a use for her. So yeah, not entirely convinced by James yet. Throughout the series, there was zero evidence that showed she was self sufficient in any way shape or form (Contrast with Lorna who's clearly on top of her shit). Taboo is a BBC television drama series produced by Scott Free London and Hardy Son & Baker. Why James Delaney has done any of this is anybody’s guess. It aired on BBC One in the United Kingdom, on 7 January 2017 and on FX in the United States, on 10 January 2017.A second series was announced during March 2017. Actress Ooona Chapman, who plays the character James Delaney’s half-sister Zilpha has deep dark eyes that exquisitely express the untold longings central to Taboo’s plotline. Why did the EIC wait until now to blow up James’s ship, when its ownership and location — like that of his office, his house, and his sister’s house — is a matter of public record? And I think this is reason enough to keep her in the show. The letter she wrote may have seems loving, but i think it was done to wound James. Taboo Season 2: Apparently Tom Hardy Is Back In The Role Of James Keziah Delaney For The Second Installment . There’s a forbidden longing, and lust pulling them together like two magnets even though they are half brother and sister. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. the part where James says, "You used to straighten your skirts and walk away like nothing ever happened." Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/28/taboo-season-1-finale-postmortem-tom-hardy-steven-knight/. She still worried about heaven and God's judgment and we know that James doesn't believe in any of it. James and Zilpha hook up. (1)Zilpha was hurt from rejection, plus she no longer had no backup because she killed her husband. Delaney questions her death and it seemed to come out of nowhere and happened rather quickly...Im just not believing that they built up this storyline over 8 episodes and just extinguished it with no explanation or conclusion. Weird. She has advised the Americans to accept the monopoly James wants against Nootka. that the reason he'd stop wanting to fuk his half sister, was that's a visual fact shown and that it represented Oedipal under pinnings, so the fuuk what? I'm assuming, of course, that the boy is the product of Delaney and Zilpha's taboo relationship. James Kezia Delaney returned unexpectedly from Africa after 10 years presumed dead. If they get a second season, the writing and story would be impressive if they surprise us with Zilpha having had some master plan of her own. Having Steven Knight, Tom Hardy, and such interesting subject matter, I was expecting Taboo to be fantastic. NBA Free Agency 2020: Why did James Harden reject the offer to become 1st player to earn $50mn salary? His rejection of her, his severing of their relationship, was too much for her to deal with, and to escape the pain and the longing she felt within the cage of her life, she decided the only way to slip its bars was to kill herself. I agree, I felt their relationship was more complex than just incest - though this show's handling of that plot line says I'm wrong. James freaks out, nearly chokes Zilpha, and flees the bedroom before their family reunion reaches its climax. I believe after the funeral, he went to say, “That’s it — I want nothing to do with you.” Instead of that, he says, “Take that f—ing dress off,” which just came out of his mouth, like somebody trying not to go back to their primary addiction or obsession. 4:27. The Delaneys did eventually give in to their long suppressed passion, but it could hardly be called a success given that James, plagued by visions of his dead mother, nearly strangled Zilpha … Like James, Taboo encounters out-and-out evil as a mere obstacle to be effortlessly surmounted in the race to the finish line. Created by Steven Knight with Tom Hardy and Chips Hardy, the drama series Taboo is set in 1814 and follows James Keziah Delaney (Tom Hardy), a … Permalink: They're my rocks now. Taboo Episode 6 Theories. I don't think she is dead. Of course Tommy is in charge but the brothers do pretty much everything he says as well. Her in Bedlam would be the perfect reason for James to return to England for a final bloody showdown with Prinny and the EIC. Or in a drunken, water infused magic moment, did James use her guts to auger some answers? "The tide won't bring her back". The masked figure was revealed to be Thorne on episode 7. We will never know at this point how their relationship began so all this is pointless speculation that will get you nowhere b/c the dialogue is purposefully cryptic in order to get you to rationalize it any way you want--that is one way to write a story--get the audience to use their imaginations and fill in the blanks for you. James had plenty of opportunities to kill Thorne, but he didn’t because Zilpha didn’t want him to — he wanted her to leave him. "Zilpha is Horace Delaney's child by his second marriage and James Delaney's younger half-sister. She tells him that he has to sign the contract first. Did she get in the middle of a James and Mommy spiritual cage match? Zilpha has been lying with James all along about her feelings for him. One of the dream sequences had what I think was Zilpha with a masked figure - presumably James - standing over her. It was very popular during its day and approximately one hundred thirty ancient manuscripts have survived. She could barely even make up her own mind let alone hatch a master plan to fake her own death. BBC and FX‘s Taboo: Season 1, Episode 8 ended the season by tying up loose ends, killing off good, bad, and grey … It did really remind me of the videotape in True Detective and I don't think this was written in a void. zilpha isn't supposed to be some weepy wife in the end, when we were watching this show we wanted her to gain her strength, to move out from beneath her husband's shadow, not to get swallowed up in james'. The abuse she suffered had destroyed her. They showed a scene of her in the bathtub..perhaps she was practicing holding her breath to fake her death? which felt so unfair and alienating? Or maybe she turned against him or something. Knight has a problem with any female character that isn't 100% submissive to the male lead. If you’ve been watching Taboo from the beginning, you’ve been waiting for shit to get really bizarre. If she was dead he would hear her singing. I'm not ready to re-watch them all yet. Zilpha – “I was thinking, and … It was cute that the perverted chemist was acting almost like a father figure to the poor waif. I don't think any of the male characters would've been able to do that. Not up to my expectations, but my expectations were very, very high. A devout Christian." James maintains that if Zilpha were dead, he’d know, because he’d hear her as clearly as if she were on the other side of an open door. I totally get what you are saying but it seems too obvious. I think it was evident in her letter to him at the end. I love Tom Hardy and Steven Knight's peaky blinders remains to me the greatest show on earth, it was just such a blow to me to be so let down in such an unexpected way. Should be short and to the point. Jumping from that bridge doesn't necessarily kill you anyway, it's not like it was the Golden Gates bridge. Especially that scene in the church where he's just sitting there and she sits on his lap. Taboo Season 1 Episode 8 Review. But when James wakes up the next morning in the mud, Winter is found dead. I think he saw it as a game they were playing, that Zilpha could just shrug off her respectable life whenever she was ready. Taboo continued some much needed character work with Tom Hardy's James Delaney in episode 3, exploring his grudge against the East India Trading … A second series was announced during March 2017. From what we got onscreen there just wasn't enough there for me to invest in any type of relationship with those two. line. But no, I don't think she is dead, or else we would have seen her corpse and unless weighted down, bodies float . He’s broken because she did that. When you wanted to make art and you just made me laugh. She was certainly willing but he lost all interest after their little sex session and had those visions. She was my least favorite character and I was glad to see her go tbh. You just have a problem with Oedipal incest!?! The incest was the Taboo. Taboo Quotes. Like James, Taboo encounters out-and-out evil as a mere obstacle to be effortlessly surmounted in the race to the finish line. Zilpha did that of her own volition, which ironically makes her seem insane as he rejected her, in a passionate way. I'm glad they can evoke this sort of stuff without going full-on supernatural. When he recognizes someone he has use for, it’s true. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Like when Winter was murdered, it seemed so obvious James did it, given all of the things we were shown. It's too soon to let her die. They knew each other’s madness and she kind of stepped across an unwritten line between the two of them. Press J to jump to the feed. It's the same reason why the cannibal aspect was never mentioned again after episode 3. Wtf did I say not implying this? Because she's not. and this is not necessarily a problem with people blaming james, it's blaming the minds behind this show for sacrificing content and development so they could have a self congratulatory 8 episode long wank about 'maintaining suspense' and creating 'mystery'. So the clear implications of James seeing his witch mother while he fucks his sister and his sister looking possessed witchy IS a PROBLEM for you!? The earliest copy of the Infancy Gospel of James is a text discovered in 1958 and dating to the 4th century. The "Taboo" finale was mostly well received by the twitter audience, however, it also triggered strong feelings from citizens of Shat Nation: anger over Zilpha's death, frustration over plot holes, curiosity about James Delaney's mental state, and hope for a "Taboo" season 2 and beyond. Similarly to Brace she would not have been able to handle the freedom that James embraces. Thoyt: The land in your father's will is not only useless, but dangerous to anyone who owns it. Don’t worry, buddy — flashback dick happens to a lot of guys. Shrouded in mystery and preceded by wild rumours. So Zilpha knows nothing of what happened to her boy. FX/BBC miniseries Taboo. You didn't even use that as a better explanation. Their story could've been written better--for example, we could have seen James' supernatural powers decrease as Zilpha's increased or have Zilpha be his diabolical muse. zilpha x james had so much potential, was so complex, could have been explored. Zilpha is Jame's last remaining link to London, I dont think she'll be dead. They wanted to shock the audience and make the show seem darker and edgier than it ended up being. So, no, I don't think she is dead. So with Zilpha, the reason he doesn’t want her a part of it is he doesn’t think she is his sort of person. They knew each other’s madness and she kind of stepped across an unwritten line between the two of them. Also, Zilpha would've never been written as James' equal, b/c he's not meant to have one (Lorna's existence notwithstanding). I think James recognized that Zilpha wasn't really like him in that she truly believed in religion and God. I didn't see any of that. Did Zilpha really die? If Taboo wasn’t going to deliver logic in its series one finale, it was determined to give us a show. Elsewhere, Lorna sets out to discover the truth, whilst Zilpha perhaps has already found her own. Married to Thorne Geary. I think that he was really surprised by Zilpha. Zilpha killing herself seems perfectly in line with what we have learned of her mental state. If it is James and Zilpha's child, though, maybe shame makes James not want to see him again. If it was the murder or him not wanting her involved he would of Brace'd her. On a lighter note, anyone care to write some fan fiction? So if you see women like that, you might as well be having sex with me.” That shock completely pulls him out. My biggest frustration with this show is that it takes forever for people to die and especially the central characters. I feel like I watched too many shows to believe that someone is dead unless you actually and clearly see them die or they show the body. Personally I don't care for incest but I accept it with some caveats. This much was obvious. The Houston Rockets are desperately trying to cling on to their star guard - James Harden. 2- It will be revealed that hatching masterful plans isn't just a James Delaney specialty. Armed with the opportunity they have been longing for, the Crown and Company conspire to bring him down once and for all. I feel like the storyline had a lot potential but they decided to just drop it because it seems Knight has a problem with any female character that isn't 100% submissive to the male lead (Peaky Blinders also has the same problem). 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