Dermatology

Location

Rush

# Weeks

4

Hours/week on site

31-40, 41-50

Open to M3s?

yes – only in May or June of M3 year

Scheduled through OASIS?

yes

On Rush schedule?

yes

# other students

1, 4 or more

Prerequisites

none

Interviewing/Step 2 flexibility

If you have a valid excuse, they'll give you the day off.  I took around 7 days off!

Overnight call?

no

Work weekends?

no

Weekend call?

no

Is there an exam at the end of the rotation

yes

Students required to give a presentation

yes

Teaching hours/day

0-2

Teaching style

Patient rounds, Morning report/Case conference, Lecture given by resident or attending, Student presentations

Suggested reading/pocket contents

They give you a bunch of handouts to read.  Carry a ruler and penlight.

I just checked out a book from the library that had an atlas of pictures. I don't think you need to buy a book unless you plan on doing dermatology.

Lookingbill DP, Marks JG. Principles of Dermatology.

Structure of rotation

One-on-one with attendings/residents

Amt/quality of time residents/attendings

Generally, you see the patients first and then present to an attending or resident.  Most of them are very good teachers.

The attendings teach quite a bit, but they get really worked up over the format of the note, and this is really frustrating because each attending has a different format and they don't tell you until after you see a patient and already wrote on the note. One attending yells at you, so be careful. Make sure to ask about the format before you write in the notes.

I spent all day 7:30-8:30am to 5:00pm M-F working one on one with residents/attendings in clinic.  A lot of teaching is done in the exam room with the patient.

Proportion of time evaluating pts alone

75-100%

# pts evaluated/day

8-10, >10

Procedures

Once a week, A few times/month

Typical day

Three days/week you have lecture early in the morning, then clinic starts around 9.  I took a short break for lunch, then afternoon clinic generally went until about 5.  If you're on consults, you might stay later because the attendings round after their clinic is over.

Get there at 8am leave around 4pm. Usually, Wednesday afternoons are off.

7:30-8:30am until 5:00pm M-F  Lunch as time allowed 12pm-1pm  There is not much down time during the day, so expect to keep up with reading evenings/weekends.  There is no call and no weekends.  Activities are derm clinic and some inpatient consult service.

Usefulness for any residency

2 of 5 stars, 5 of 5

Usefulness for this residency

5 of 5 stars

Useful for other specialties

Pretty much anything - people will always ask you about rashes.  One important thing you learn is how to describe lesions to the dermatologist you're consulting.

any primary care specialty

medicine, pediatrics, family med, pathology

Overall rating

3 of 5 stars, 5 of 5

Recommended to other students

3 of 5 stars, 5 of 5

Other comments

Be enthusiastic, do some basic reading on main derm topics, and enjoy.  The derm residents and attendings are very friendly and like to teach.

Derm was not as easy as I expected, but I had a good time because laura hoffman was super nice and was really understanding regarding all the interviews. I have a feeling that the new chiefs will NOT be that way. From what I remember, the girls who will be seniors next year are not very flexible people.